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		<title>By: TeriS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeriS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found coarse vermiculite in the Los Angeles, San Gabriel Valley area at WHITTIER FERTILIZER CO, 9441 Kurse Road, Pico Rivera, CA 90660 (562) 699-3461. $18 also peat moss $17.50 and LOTS of compost and such</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found coarse vermiculite in the Los Angeles, San Gabriel Valley area at WHITTIER FERTILIZER CO, 9441 Kurse Road, Pico Rivera, CA 90660 (562) 699-3461. $18 also peat moss $17.50 and LOTS of compost and such</p>
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		<title>By: PatisPatio</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatisPatio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I visited my old( I mean very Old) church and their were just a handful of people there. I volunteered for the VBS..only 3 children in the group..but that evolved into 12 for the class. I suggested Mel&#039;s sfg and the pastor was in agreement..So here I am, not a Gardner but an artist with beautiful pictures of veggies,flowers and salsa bringing this community together.Bringing children and old folks to an event that promotes growth in the community.I found You and Your site and look forward to all the help I can get. I was the corporate Facilities Artist that traveled to Park City Utah to paint their indoor parking levels ..so gardners pray for me and this venture. Pati Mills Winter Haven,Florida</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited my old( I mean very Old) church and their were just a handful of people there. I volunteered for the VBS..only 3 children in the group..but that evolved into 12 for the class. I suggested Mel&#8217;s sfg and the pastor was in agreement..So here I am, not a Gardner but an artist with beautiful pictures of veggies,flowers and salsa bringing this community together.Bringing children and old folks to an event that promotes growth in the community.I found You and Your site and look forward to all the help I can get. I was the corporate Facilities Artist that traveled to Park City Utah to paint their indoor parking levels ..so gardners pray for me and this venture. Pati Mills Winter Haven,Florida</p>
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		<title>By: rainberryblue :: tool time :: May :: 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>rainberryblue :: tool time :: May :: 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ground looked pretty good at the depth that I&#8217;d dug it. I just spread on a thin layer of the 1:1:1 mixture of peat moss, vermiculite, and compost/manure that I used for the raised garden beds, planted my potato pieces, and spread on another layer to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ground looked pretty good at the depth that I&#8217;d dug it. I just spread on a thin layer of the 1:1:1 mixture of peat moss, vermiculite, and compost/manure that I used for the raised garden beds, planted my potato pieces, and spread on another layer to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hippygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>hippygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to avoid buying peat moss because of environmental reasons (shipped from far away, for example). What else can I use if I want to try Mel&#039;s mix?

What I did was potting soil and compost mixed together for two beds. For another bed, I&#039;m using dug up sod on the bottom (my soil isn&#039;t bad, so I don&#039;t mind if the roots grow down into it), mixed with some potting soil and compost. I haven&#039;t planted in this yet, so no idea how it will do. The potting soil and compost mix is working well, but doens&#039;t seem very frugal. :) 

I think that mixing my own soil with some compost is going to be the most frugal thing, but maybe not the most fertile soil, at least for this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to avoid buying peat moss because of environmental reasons (shipped from far away, for example). What else can I use if I want to try Mel&#8217;s mix?</p>
<p>What I did was potting soil and compost mixed together for two beds. For another bed, I&#8217;m using dug up sod on the bottom (my soil isn&#8217;t bad, so I don&#8217;t mind if the roots grow down into it), mixed with some potting soil and compost. I haven&#8217;t planted in this yet, so no idea how it will do. The potting soil and compost mix is working well, but doens&#8217;t seem very frugal. <img src='http://www.mysquarefootgarden.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I think that mixing my own soil with some compost is going to be the most frugal thing, but maybe not the most fertile soil, at least for this season.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those in the Salt Lake City area, I found my coarse Vermiculite at:
Steve Regan Co.
Sells coarse Vermiculite in 3-1/2 cu foot bags
for $20@bag
801-268-4500
4215 S  500 W
Salt Lake City
They gave me a discount without me asking....$17.50 a bag.
That was nice.
Maybe they will give a discount to you, also.
George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those in the Salt Lake City area, I found my coarse Vermiculite at:<br />
Steve Regan Co.<br />
Sells coarse Vermiculite in 3-1/2 cu foot bags<br />
for $20@bag<br />
801-268-4500<br />
4215 S  500 W<br />
Salt Lake City<br />
They gave me a discount without me asking&#8230;.$17.50 a bag.<br />
That was nice.<br />
Maybe they will give a discount to you, also.<br />
George</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,

I had several reasons for &quot;upsizing.&quot; First, I wanted to grow some root vegetables, like carrots and potatoes. With my double-rail gardens, I had great success!

Second, I didn&#039;t want to mow around my gardens, so I dug out the sod and covered the ground with weed mat, then gravel. the gravel gets REALLY hot, and I think the heat was stunting the growth.

Finally, I find that as the season progresses the Mel&#039;s mix compacts down and sort of sinks. I wanted to be sure I had a MINIMUM of 6&quot; of soil--that was hard to do when the maximum that fit was 6&quot;. 

I just built garden boxes for a friend (watch for the post coming soon!) and used 2x10 boards. It was significantly cheaper than vinyl and I think 9-10&quot; of soil will work well for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>I had several reasons for &#8220;upsizing.&#8221; First, I wanted to grow some root vegetables, like carrots and potatoes. With my double-rail gardens, I had great success!</p>
<p>Second, I didn&#8217;t want to mow around my gardens, so I dug out the sod and covered the ground with weed mat, then gravel. the gravel gets REALLY hot, and I think the heat was stunting the growth.</p>
<p>Finally, I find that as the season progresses the Mel&#8217;s mix compacts down and sort of sinks. I wanted to be sure I had a MINIMUM of 6&#8243; of soil&#8211;that was hard to do when the maximum that fit was 6&#8243;. </p>
<p>I just built garden boxes for a friend (watch for the post coming soon!) and used 2&#215;10 boards. It was significantly cheaper than vinyl and I think 9-10&#8243; of soil will work well for her.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Megan,

You can use perlite instead of vermiculite. It&#039;s not the same, but if cost or availability is an issue, use the perlite. I just built garden boxes for my friend, and we used perlite to keep the cost low. Use in the same proportions you would vermiculite.

Just a note--since my boxes are extra tall (12&quot; instead of 6&quot;), I have modified my Mel&#039;s mix to be 25% vermiculite, 25% peat moss, and 50% compost. I find it&#039;s enough vermiculite and peat to retain water and make the mix light and friable, but it keeps the cost down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megan,</p>
<p>You can use perlite instead of vermiculite. It&#8217;s not the same, but if cost or availability is an issue, use the perlite. I just built garden boxes for my friend, and we used perlite to keep the cost low. Use in the same proportions you would vermiculite.</p>
<p>Just a note&#8211;since my boxes are extra tall (12&#8243; instead of 6&#8243;), I have modified my Mel&#8217;s mix to be 25% vermiculite, 25% peat moss, and 50% compost. I find it&#8217;s enough vermiculite and peat to retain water and make the mix light and friable, but it keeps the cost down.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily,
Love your site. You mention in your Blog on How to Create Mel&#039;s Mix that you plan on doubling the number of boxes and making them twice as high (12 inches vs. 6 inches) I was wondering why you wanted more depth. I am just starting out and interested in all things SFG.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily,<br />
Love your site. You mention in your Blog on How to Create Mel&#8217;s Mix that you plan on doubling the number of boxes and making them twice as high (12 inches vs. 6 inches) I was wondering why you wanted more depth. I am just starting out and interested in all things SFG.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your site!  I&#039;ve found it very helpful, and have already referred to it often.  We&#039;ve been trying to locate vermicullite in the Seattle area &amp; are having a hard time.  One garden store said we should be able to substitute perlite for it.  Would the measurements/amounts work the same?  

Thanks for sharing your experience!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your site!  I&#8217;ve found it very helpful, and have already referred to it often.  We&#8217;ve been trying to locate vermicullite in the Seattle area &amp; are having a hard time.  One garden store said we should be able to substitute perlite for it.  Would the measurements/amounts work the same?  </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your experience!</p>
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		<title>By: sunslight</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunslight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mix I use for growing under lights, is 1/3 each of peat, perlite, vermiculite. With the cost of all these going way up, I&#039;m switching to about 1/2 peat and perlite, with a little virmiculite spread over the top of each planting to retain the moisture.

Be extremely careful when adding peat into Utah soil, that is clay. 

Peat is extremely fine. It will bind with the clay and cause it to become harder. Which is exactly what you don&#039;t want.
Also, don&#039;t mix sand* into clay soil. When the summer heat comes, you will have turned your garden soil into adobe.

The best thing to do is add compost &amp; lots of it.  Avoid manures because of the salts.

*Sand actually can be mixed with the clay. Clay really holds water and is quite good with nutrients but they get locked up and the clay, as you know gets very hard in the summer. Sand is great to break up clay, but you will have to use more sand that you can imagine. A mix of 10:1 by volume is not out of the question. So for every pot of garden soil, if you mix in 10 pots of sand, it will make the clay friable.  If you want to do that much work, okay, other wise, if you have clay soil, stay away from both peat and sand, as soil amendments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mix I use for growing under lights, is 1/3 each of peat, perlite, vermiculite. With the cost of all these going way up, I&#8217;m switching to about 1/2 peat and perlite, with a little virmiculite spread over the top of each planting to retain the moisture.</p>
<p>Be extremely careful when adding peat into Utah soil, that is clay. </p>
<p>Peat is extremely fine. It will bind with the clay and cause it to become harder. Which is exactly what you don&#8217;t want.<br />
Also, don&#8217;t mix sand* into clay soil. When the summer heat comes, you will have turned your garden soil into adobe.</p>
<p>The best thing to do is add compost &amp; lots of it.  Avoid manures because of the salts.</p>
<p>*Sand actually can be mixed with the clay. Clay really holds water and is quite good with nutrients but they get locked up and the clay, as you know gets very hard in the summer. Sand is great to break up clay, but you will have to use more sand that you can imagine. A mix of 10:1 by volume is not out of the question. So for every pot of garden soil, if you mix in 10 pots of sand, it will make the clay friable.  If you want to do that much work, okay, other wise, if you have clay soil, stay away from both peat and sand, as soil amendments.</p>
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