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  1. Dorothy Barlow says:

    Please share ideas regarding over watering tomato plants in square foot raised beds.

  2. plicketycat says:

    I’ve had success with indeterminate tomatoes on a trellis (not a cage) using 1:2 spacing (deep or wide) without needing to prune constantly. I’ve even used 3:4 spacing on a trellis without a huge amount of pruning.

    The trick to planting a full row with 1:2 deep is to plant the tomatoes in alternating squares and then zig-zag the trellis. Zig-zagging provides a little more supported room for the climbin tomatoes to spread out rather than just running your trellis down the middle like you do with the special pea/bean grid. One or two of the larger square cages unfolded works great for zig-zagging.

    T x T x
    x T x T

    All three of these techniques also work well with the other large viners like squash, pumpkins and melons, and the trellis provides plenty of area to attach slings/supports.

  3. Emily says:

    You can plant it in one square foot, and support with a stake or trellis, but you must PRUNE it diligently. I don’t prefer this method–it takes a lot of work.

  4. mcen says:

    Hello,i have a question,after reading mel’s book for it possible to plant a tomato in one square foot place?? cause mel says you can.what’s your opinion?? Thanks.Nick from Greece.

  5. Emily says:

    Probably from the heat–they don’t like it too hot.

  6. doug hicken says:

    I’ve noticed that when some of my tomato blossoms are done blooming the branch about a 1/4 to 1/2 an inch back from the blossom shrinks and the blossom eventually falls off. Any idea? Is this caused because of the extreme heat we had in early June here in Utah?

    I’ve been fertilizing with 9-59-8, just put fungicide on and water once a week.

    Thanks again,


  7. Emily says:

    Sounds like tomato blight. Google it, and see if the pics look right. If so, it’s a fungus–keep them dry (no watering overhead), allow to dry between waterings, and use fungicide (if you do that type of thing).

  8. Mike says:

    First time gardner question: My Tomato plants started off great, but now the branches and leaves are curling under and the leaves are turning black and crumbling. Any ideas?
    I used mels mix for the soil and our local nursery said the peat moss may have to much phosphorus, so they had me ad nitrogen, no luck. Bought a PH meter and a NPK test kit today and will test when I get home. Wish there was a way to post a picture

  9. madeline says:

    Thank you Emily

    This is my first try so I will go with the 2 squares for each 🙂

    Thanks again, this site is super!

  10. Emily says:

    Here is my experience–with determinate tomatoes, give them 4 squares but no support needed. For indeterminate tomatoes, 1 square on a trellis and you must prune vigilantly. Still, the tomatoes will grow all over, so 2 squares is better. 4 squares with a large (5′ tall) tomato cage. Or, let it sprawl on 9 squares.

  11. madeline says:

    I am real confused on tomatoes and could use some help-I am planting one tomato in 2 squares, worried that they may get overcrowded with 1 per sq foot.

    Does this sound right to you?

    Thanks-love the website too!

  12. Emily says:

    If you are going to plant them deeper, I’d do it carefully and take out the dirt around the plant with it, dig a deeper hole, and sink the entire thing. Be sure to remove any leaves that will be under the soil level so they don’t rot. The little fuzzy stem will grow roots, so it’s great to have them down deep.

  13. Brandicj says:

    So I have never really noticed whether SFG methods require the deep planting that is recommended by some for tomatoes. I purchased my transplants and put them in the ground 2 days ago, and only then noticed the recommendation to plant up to 2/3 of the stem underground! We live in the deep south. I bought Sweet 100, Golden Brandywine, and Cherokee Purple. I think the trellis will provide enough support for the roots, but I wonder if I should dig them up before they’re established and get them in deeper so they can have more moisture available. Help!
    (The labels suggest the same thing for peppers, btw).

  14. Emily says:

    I just got one of my garden beds ready, and planted my onions (post coming soon!). I’m halfway through another bed so I can plant my peas. But then it snowed. 🙂

    I have planted the following varieties: Jet Star (didn’t love them), Early Girl, Better Boy, Roma, Salsa/Salad (Burpee I think), Celebrity, Champion, and Sweet 100.

    I feel like I’m still figuring out the “secrets” to having an abundant harvest, so I’m keeping it simple–Roma, Early Girl, and Better Boy. Oh, and a Sweet 100–I do those every year. These are all basic varieties you can get anywhere, and I think once I master the art I will expand to heirloom varieties. I just hate not knowing if my success/failure is conditions or variety.

  15. Kim Spangrude says:

    Have you started turning over and preparing your garden space yet? I live in SLC and began working on my large garden and greenhouse (it covers four 10×5 raised beds) a couple of weeks ago and am so glad I got it all done before the storm.
    I wanted to ask you what kind of tomatoes you will grow this year. Last year I grew about 10 different varieties, mostly heirlooms – what a mistake. The greenhouse was an unmanageable jungle. This year I think I am only going to plant better boys and early girls, and prune and stake them very carefully so that they are a bit more productive and manageable.! Kim Spangrude

  16. Emily says:

    Right now I’m using cages only. They take up the least amount of space.

  17. doug hicken says:

    Are you still growing semi-determinate and inderminate on a trellis or are you now using cages only? If i read another post correctly you recommend one tomato plant per vertical trellis, right?

  18. doug hicken says:

    I read that some people recommend starting with less than 2 tablespoons er gallon. Does it matter with Mel’s mix?

  19. Emily says:

    Yes, mix with water and apply.

  20. doug hicken says:

    I take it you are applying the 9-59-8 by soil application method, right? (dumb question I image). I was wondering if I should do this to my tomatoes. Does it help the tomatoes flower? It has been a hard year here in Utah for flowering.

    Soil Application: Dissolve 2 tablespoons in 1 gallon of water.
    Apply 1 quart per square foot of planted area. Repeat every 7-14

  21. Emily says:

    You can grow vining (indeterminate) tomatoes in one square with a vertical trellis, 4 squares with a tomato cage, or 9 squares unsupported.

  22. Nathalie says:

    I am curious about the vining tomatoes- on the list page of how many plants per square, it says plant 1 tomato plant per square (I am assuming that is when using a cage) but above it says when using a cage 4 squares are required per plant. Thanks for any info! I just purchased some Early Girl tomatoes.

  23. Emily says:

    Carrie–I have tried planting them “sideways” and “normal” and both worked for me. If you lay them down, you have to be REALLY careful not to snap the stem. Link to the “black trays” I don’t know what those are.

    I grow cherry tomatoes on a trellis (one plant for the entire trellis!) and mostly just tuck them upwards and then prune as they start growing horizontally.

  24. Carrie says:

    Do you lay your tomatoes down like Mel recommends? I’m planning to try to lay them down this year. I bought the black trays from his site to try this year, too. They’re supposed to help get better and more tomatoes. I think I’ll try the trellis with the cherry tomato like you did too. I’ve tried it with regular tomatoes, but haven’t been able to get it figured out really. Hopefully your pruning video will help me!

  25. Emily says:

    From checking your blog, you DO live in a cold climate, and will very likely need to employ some method to extend your harvest and protect your plants to get a good output from tomatoes. The good news is, you can probably grow greens, broccoli, onions, peas LIKE CRAZY! Take advantage. Please share anything you try with tomatoes–I’m going to write soon about extending your harvest/protecting plants. Watch for it!

  26. Rachelle says:

    Thanks so much for this post – I spent the winter convincing my husband to switch us to raised beds so that I could start square-foot gardening. He’s agreed, but only because I bribed him with the promise of all the tomatoes he could eat this season.

    I’ve been hearing and reading more and more about using red plastic “mulch” under my tomato plants, or else the red plastic bags that can be used as mini-greenhouses for the plants. Do you have any experience with any of that? In my zone, I need all the help I can get to get my tomatoes to produce.